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Were your FY10 financial results in line with
management expectations ?
 
In Korea, sales revenue from our Korean subsidiary neoICP grew by 141% to $28.0m
as production output increased to over 600 high value ATMs per month compared to
150 per month less than one year ago. Production covers a range of products
including the cashPod for Australia, the cashPod for Korea and cash recycling
ATMs to Lotte Group.
In Australia, sales revenue for the year improved by 92% to $14.4m driven by a
full year operating under direct charge, an increase in transaction volumes
across our ATM fleet, and the sale of 610 cashPod ATMs that resulted in the size
of the ATM fleet under management rising from 720 to 1,330. The number of
transactions processed during the year increased to 5.8 million with the
majority of these priced at $2.00 per transaction.
The broker research papers released were considered to be in line with our
expectations. As always, the reported result will be subject to the final audit
recommendations particularly, regarding the treatment of certain issues and how
aggressively we write down assets such as inventory and R&D. These issues had
been well telegraphed and are consistent with our comments. On this basis, the
published results were in line with iCash expectations and reported in line with
accounting standards.
Can you provide details regarding your shareholding in
neoICP ?
In September 2010, a convertible note issued by neoICP in April 2007 was
exercised by investors and converted into shares in neoICP.
At June 30, ICP's shareholding in its Korean subsidiary neoICP was:
Voting interest 51.7%
Economic interest 48.4%
Following conversion of Convertible Bonds in September 2010, this shareholding
was reduced to:
Voting interest 44.9% (-6.8%)
Economic interest 42.4% (-6.0%)
The Board has always, and will continue to look to maximize the value of the
Company's investment in neoICP, and is evaluating a number of options at
present.
Can you provide a more detailed breakdown of the
Administration Expenses incurred ?
We have two major expenses items:
COGS - all direct costs
Admin Costs - all indirect costs (SG&A, corporate costs, writedown of R&D)
The table below summarises Admin Expenses for FY10.

The iCash Group grew its revenue by 121%. Our increases in administration
expenses are entirely consistent for a business with this scale of growth.
In Australia, administration costs were $4.7m and included residual
restructuring costs resulting from three previous acquisitions. Software
development expenditure associated with the introduction of direct charge and
increases to employee-related costs following the purchase of the business
assets of Pulse International in Feb-10 are reflected in these accounts. The
increased spending on infra-structure costs will enables us to adequately
resource the growth of the company in FY11 and beyond.
In Korea, Admin Costs were $4.6m and were affected by Product Development
expenditure of $1.4m related mainly to product development costs for our new
cash recycling ATM contracts. There were also inventory writedowns of $0.3m as
recommended by the auditor.
What were the details of the transfer of $1.3 million
from the Share Option Reserve ?
There was a transfer of $1.3m from Equity Options reserve to Accumulated Profits
and Losses (Reserve) as per AASB 2 - Share Based Payments. The transfer relates
to director's options granted in 2007. During the year these options were
exercised. This is not income and has no impact on P&L. The breakdown of the
transfer is as under:
James Manny 1,146,800
Tony Teng 57,340
David McDonald 114,680
1,318,820
How much did ICP spend on R&D in Australia and
separately in Korea ?
In Korea, we typically spend around 10-12 % of revenue on R&D. Last year, this
fell to under 5% due to the high sales volumes recorded.
In Australia, our expenditure relates to modifications and design adaptations to
meet specific Australian conditions such as compliance for APCA certification
and ATM testing. Last year's spend was $1.5m.
Your borrowings increased to $9.3 million from $5.3
million, an increase of almost 100%. Can you provide details regarding this ?
All financial liabilities are secured by the Korean entity and loan amounts have
no recourse to ICP (the parent entity), that is, if neoICP defaults on its loan
obligations, there is no liability or recourse to ICP.
At Jun-10, debt of $9,331,195 comprising:
$7,998,850 - short term bank facilities to accommodate increased sales
$1,332,345 - convertible bonds, since converted to equity in Sep-10
These (see Note 19) are all short term borrowings from Korea and were used to
fund forward ordering
of components ahead of Lotte production that began in Nov-09. Current revenue
from Korea is $6.0m
per month, however, components must be funded two months in advance. These
facilities were provided by Uniquest Inc, Industrial Bank of Korea and an import
finance facility syndicated by the industrial Bank of Korea and Kook Min Bank.
Some of these facilities were secured with interest ranging from 4.3% to 12%
What are the conversion terms of the Convertible Bonds
that matured in September 2010 ?
The Convertible Bonds were issued on Apr-07 and matured in Sep-10. The terms
were:
Interest rate - 4.5%
Periodic payments - not applicable
Repayment method - If not converted, principal and interest redeemed Sep 15,
2010.
Type of shares to be issued on conversion - Ordinary shares
Post-conversion, ICP's voting interest in neoICP reduced from 51.7% to 44.9%.
and our economic interest fell from 48.4% to 42.4%.
ICP currently maintains both Board control and management control. In FY11,
neoICP will still be consolidated into ICP's financial statements, and there
will be no change to the Board and day-to-day
management between the two companies.
Could you provide the terms and conditions of the loan
to BCT and when is the borrower going to repay this loan ?
Our auditors have issued a Qualified Opinion on the basis that they were unable
to satisfy themselves as to the recoverability of a Non Current amount
receivable of $1.7m resulting from an agent negotiated agreement with Beijing
Yinkatong Technology (BCT). The objective of iCash is to partner with a local
expertise to establish our operations in China. BCT is an ATM deployment and
banking software company. The amount relates to a convertible loan to BCT and is
convertible into equity in BCT. The Board has no current intention to convert
the loan and will be seeking repayment of this amount. Our agent has informed
the Board that the loan amount is recoverable.
Neo-ICP lent $2.2 million to "third party Korean
parties" and this loan is "secured over a Family Bank Inc shares". Could you
provide details regarding this ?
Includes a loan of $2.2m to a non-related third party by the Korean subsidiary
at an interest of 9%. The loan is secured by 560,000 Family Bank Inc. shares.
Family Bank is a privately owned company and 50% of the loan has been repaid in
Sept-10. This loan has been verified and signed off by the Korean auditors.
What steps are being taken to improve the standards of
Corporate Governance ?
In Aug-10, we appointed Barry Sechos as a Non-Executive Director to assist the
Board in bringing an external, alternative perspective to achieving our growth
objectives now and in the future. An important part of his brief is to ensure
that proper corporate governance process is followed with integrity, including
financial reporting and disclosure and compliance with the law and other
requirements (such as Securities Exchange Listing Rules). He will also provide
input into approving overall strategy, budgets and large financial decisions
such as capital expenditure and resource allocation.
In line with the Company's corporate development, we initiated the search three
months ago and now we have two likely candidates for the role of Independent
Non-Executive Chairman. They are agreeable to commence subject to them
completing their own due diligence and relieving themselves of some of their
current responsibilities. We anticipate their engagement and them acting as Head
of the Audit Committee by the end of this calendar year.
What are terms and conditions surrounding the options
issued in 2010 as part of the Lotte contract ?
The following options were issued for services rendered on the Lotte sale
project:
7 million options have an exercise price of $1.50.
7 million options have an exercise price of $2.00.
7 million options have an exercise price of $2.50.
These options will only be exercised if the ICP share price reaches these
prices. The vesting date is subject to final verification of the payment of
1,000 ATMs. This is expected in Nov-10. The vesting date is subject to that
verification.
What was the strategy surrounding the acquisition of
Pulse ?
Prior to the acquisition, all of ICP's transactions were switched via Pulse.
Thus, there was a business risk that another party acquired Pulse and increased
the transaction costs to us which may have made us unprofitable. So we
effectively bought our own switching agreement back from Pulse protecting us
from this situation.
Secondly, there was a benchmark transaction that valued the transaction at an
arm's length basis. We were able to earn the revenues of a residual Pulse ATM
contract for eight months. The substantial profit from this was offset against
the purchase price.
Our Remote ATM Monitoring Solution (iRAMS) software application comes from the
Pulse switching (TPII) technology. iRAMS allows users to visually monitor over
50 diagnostic parameters in real-time such as the operating status of an ATM,
the number of notes in each cassette, and the location of any jams using any PC,
an iPhone, a Symbian compatible mobile device, or the ATM screen.
Every ATM manufactured by neoICP has part of the TPII technology embedded to
allow the group to process data at the machine level rather than at a switch
environment. As an example, this application was instrumental in iCash selling
over 600 ATMS in Australia in FY10. The purchase of the Pulse infra-structure
enables us to adequately resource the growth of the company in FY11 and beyond.
What is the Contingent Liability per Note 35 in your
Notes to the Accounts ?
Since Mar-09, the GST position regarding the sharing of ATM fees in unclear in
the sharing of the $2.00 direct charge. We have adopted a conservative position
similar to that of Customers Limited until we get greater clarity from the
Australian Tax Office. There is no precedent on this which is why we have
adopted this approach. The potential Contingency Liability of between $0.4-0.6m
relating to GST payable to the Australian Tax office.
How can iCash be a major regional payments group if the
markets in which you operate are already saturated?
Management believes saturated markets only refer to a snapshot in time. For
example, demand may be matched at a price point of supply but will change as
prices change. This is also true when technology changes.
iCash pursued its business plans in markets considered saturated by other
participants but we used technology to change the competitive parameters. Our
challenge is to maintain our technology edge.
If you are Number One in the retail non-bank sector in
Korea, why hasn't this been reflected in your profile and earnings?
We have only just recently received consent from our major clients (with the
exception of Lotte Group) to name them as our customers. Understandably, they
were cautiously managing the reputation risk that may have arisen from
entrusting part of their cash handling infrastructure to a microcap Australian
company. We should not forget that iCash as a group has only been a full time
ATM and cash handling business since late 2007.
iCash provided, as approved by the Board, sufficient information for investors
to determine that the Group had achieved significant milestones both here and
Korea. More recently, the group issued its first Earnings Guidance which it
considers being a significant step in its business growth.
What is your strategy for expanding in the Asia region
and how will you manage the risk?
iCash has grown within its financial means and has been defensive with its
capital. Management prioritises its capital expenditure according to where it
believes the best returns are achievable and sustainable.
Going forward, iCash will remain capital defensive. We will seek to leverage off
our customers, where we have become commercially integrated and enter new
markets by their side. We anticipate that we will have a presence in Taiwan,
Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam along with China and New Zealand in the medium
term. We are operating pilot trials already but meaningful rollout naturally
depends on economic viability.
This strategy reduces what management refers to as 'frontier risk' in entering
markets where our own local experience is limited.

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